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#1 dapleb

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Posted 31 March 2006 - 09:02 pm

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Posted 01 April 2006 - 11:29 am

QUOTE(dapleb @ Fri 31st Mar 2006, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Cheers dude!

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Posted 01 April 2006 - 03:56 pm


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Posted 22 March 2010 - 12:23 pm

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I just did an oil and filter change on my 2006 TDM, at the same time i changed the oil and filter in the car. They both took '10W 40' oil, on the bike i used Yamalube and Costrol on the car, so does anyone know if car engine oil would work in a bike?????? blink.gif ???? I've read up a bit on it (just off the web) and there are different reports on it????????

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 12:33 pm

QUOTE(Buddner @ Mon 22nd Mar 2010, 12:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just did an oil and filter change on my 2006 TDM, at the same time i changed the oil and filter in the car. They both took '10W 40' oil, on the bike i used Yamalube and Costrol on the car, so does anyone know if car engine oil would work in a bike?????? blink.gif ???? I've read up a bit on it (just off the web) and there are different reports on it????????

theres some contention on this
the general belief is no, car oils have anti-friction properties which dont do much for the bikes clutch wink.gif
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Posted 22 March 2010 - 01:39 pm

It depends on what is in the oil. Some half decent research showed that some manufacturers of both car and bike oils were putting ED ZACKERY the same thing in both the car and bike tins and packaging/charging differently for an identical substance. Others varied car and bike contents.

JASO MA rating, is the motorcycle rating for NO clutch slip. You won't see that on a car tin, so if you are worried I would go for a motorcycle JASO MA rated oil. As long as its JASO MA rated then you can choose from mineral, semi or full synth depending on which piece of poor/not at all backed up/guessing/"my engine has had it for years and runs fine" type opinion you would like to select.

I run Castrol GTX car enjun oil in a mkI after Snorv used it in his mkI and had no immediate issues. Several reasons, despite trying very very hard I cant get the clutch to slip with this stuff, mkI and mkII drink oil if ridden in a certain manner so its cheaper to buy and easier to find, if car oil is doing terrible terrible nasty things to the inside of my enjun I am happy to accept the consequences.

Having a niner, the using oil thing probably is not an issue (yet) inbetween services. Also the mkII and 9'ers seem to have more problems reported with clutch squeal than the mkIs. I would probably use a bike specific JASO MA rated oil if there were no oil useage issues.
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Posted 22 March 2010 - 02:55 pm

No issues getting oil, just wanted to know if there was any REAL difference between car and Bike oil. I'll defo stick to the bike oil just to be safe. Cheers good.gif

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 08:58 pm

apologies if this is somewhere in that long list,

[quote name='dapleb' date='Mon 22nd Mar 2010, 03:39 PM' post='155567']
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JASO MA rating, is the motorcycle rating for NO clutch slip. You won't see that on a car tin, so if you are worried I would go for a motorcycle JASO MA rated oil. As long as its JASO MA rated then you can choose from mineral, semi or full synth depending on which piece of poor/not at all backed up/guessing/"my engine has had it for years and runs fine" type opinion you would like to select.

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A premium quality motorcycle engine oil can be stated to meet the requirements of API Service Classification SJ, SH, SG, SF, CH-4, CG-4, CF-2, CF and CD. Note that SH, SF, SG and CD are now obsolete. Motorcycles specifying an oil meeting any of the obsolete applications can use an oil with the newer classification oil because it includes, and supersedes, the requirements of the obsolete service classification. For example, if you have an old motorcycle that specifies SE service classification you do not have to go out and look for an oil with that service classification (and if you did you would most likely not be able to find any in stores as SE was outdated in 1979). The newer classifications include the outdated ones and are perfectly suitable for use. There are some motorcycle oil manufacturers that will include an older service classification on the bottle to so that consumers can specifically see that the oil not only meets all the older specifications but the newer ones as well.

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I run Castrol GTX car enjun oil in a mkI after Snorv used it in his mkI and had no immediate issues. Several reasons, despite trying very very hard I cant get the clutch to slip with this stuff, mkI and mkII drink oil if ridden in a certain manner so its cheaper to buy and easier to find, if car oil is doing terrible terrible nasty things to the inside of my enjun I am happy to accept the consequences. [quote]

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It is important to note that as an oil classification is superseded by a newer one, that the newer one provides improved benefits over the older one in such areas as high and low temperature deposits, wear, rust and corrosion for example and is perfectly suitable for use. All quality motorcycle specific oils should also carry the JASO Motorcycle Specifications, which are either the JASO-MA specification (no friction modifiers) or the JASO-MB specification (with friction modifiers). The JASO-MA rating specifies that no friction modifiers are used. Note that the JASO-MB motorcycle does have friction modifiers, but is designed for motorcycles that specify the JASO-MB specification. If the oil does not carry one of these specifications, even if the other specifications listed above are present, We recommend finding an oil that has the proper JASO specification clearly labeled on the bottle.

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and i also use castrol or similar in my Mk1

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 09:14 pm

Just for info I used Castrol GTX 10-40 for 60,000 miles in my recently sold MK11 & my partner for a similar mileage in her Honda Varadero, have also used it in our 2 trail bikes & 2 cars for the past 6 years.
For me it simplifies matters both at home and travelling in places where bike oil is sometimes difficult to get.
We have had no problems but as the earlier post states do what you feel comfortable with.

ps would not suggest you use other than a recommended bike oil during the warranty period (or at least don't admit it) just in case the dealer or Yamaha make an issue of it in the unlikely event you have a mechanical failure.

Edited by dicky1, 22 March 2010 - 09:15 pm.

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