So my rear shock is knackered, pissing oil. Ordered a unused 2015 R1 shock of the bay, seems to have the dimensions for my 850. Planning on swapping the spring with the one on my 3vd shock, as the R1 one is way too soft for direct linkage. Anybody done dis before?
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Posted 16 September 2018 - 01:45 pm
Boing boing boing.... It has been mentioned a few times don't think it worked for t'others.
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Posted 16 September 2018 - 01:53 pm
Have they all fitted the old spring? Yep already boing boinging all over the place, guess it's because of the total lack of oil in the old shock..
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Posted 17 September 2018 - 06:04 am
Have they all fitted the old spring? Yep already boing boinging all over the place, guess it's because of the total lack of oil in the old shock..
The problem would be damping - it has to be harmonised to spring. If you stiffen the spring considerably and don't increase rebound damping, the bike would feel ~undampened.
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Posted 17 September 2018 - 01:38 pm
Aha! So then the question is:Does the R1 shock have enough rebound damping for a spring that is 1200 lbs?
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Posted 17 September 2018 - 07:33 pm
Aha!
taaake onnnn meeee
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Posted 18 September 2018 - 05:07 am
Yes heard that one, not saying much about spring rates, unfortunately.
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Posted 18 September 2018 - 05:58 am
Aha!
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Posted 18 September 2018 - 07:01 am
I rather listen to this:
https://open.spotify...YSFK5NF2bgPBCSA
Anyone with experience with fitting r1 shocker with other spring to the 3vd?
https://open.spotify...YSFK5NF2bgPBCSA
Anyone with experience with fitting r1 shocker with other spring to the 3vd?
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Posted 18 September 2018 - 08:23 am
taaake onnnn meeee
.......idle query....
what’s that all about ?
recognise the tune....... and the other one
but don’t get the connection to weeping shockers, spring rates....etc
please illuminate......if you can be bothered
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Posted 18 September 2018 - 09:10 am
Blame Drewpy - AHA? The boy band?
"Aha! So then the question is:Does the R1 shock have enough rebound damping for a spring that is 1200 lbs?"
Anyhoo back to R1 shock on a 3vd.
Have you checked the R1 specs? Would also expect you to have some tuning of the shock to suit a 3vd. If all else fails you could fit it and see? I changed mine a while back and it wasn't a huge job if you're handy with the spanners, unless the 3vd is greatly different to a 9'er?
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Posted 18 September 2018 - 09:46 am
Prolly just reactions to my "AHA!". SLIGHTLY off topic, but ok, it's early in the morning.
The 3vd has direct linkage, opposed to the 900, which have dog bones. I suspect the R1 shock would be easier to tune to fit the 900 because of this, but the length of the shock and the mounting holes are the same for the 3vd. Thats why I was wondering if the R1 shock would fit my bike anyhow, if I just change the spring to my 3vd one, and fettle with preload and so on.
Yes pretty handy with the spanners I guess. Doing all my bike related things myself. Going to upgrade my bike with new pistons, rings, hone, polish the innards of the top end, change valve seals and so on during the next months. Maybe some new paint, at least on the swinger, since it's going off the bike anyhow.
Btw:the link I posted is for the music that I make, great for riding fast tdms.
The 3vd has direct linkage, opposed to the 900, which have dog bones. I suspect the R1 shock would be easier to tune to fit the 900 because of this, but the length of the shock and the mounting holes are the same for the 3vd. Thats why I was wondering if the R1 shock would fit my bike anyhow, if I just change the spring to my 3vd one, and fettle with preload and so on.
Yes pretty handy with the spanners I guess. Doing all my bike related things myself. Going to upgrade my bike with new pistons, rings, hone, polish the innards of the top end, change valve seals and so on during the next months. Maybe some new paint, at least on the swinger, since it's going off the bike anyhow.
Btw:the link I posted is for the music that I make, great for riding fast tdms.
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Posted 18 September 2018 - 10:15 am
sigvepigve
As you have mentioned 3VD no linkage R1 linkage,even if both bikes has linkage they may well be different so shock wont work as intended cheaper maybe to get shock rebiult (some on here have and I think it was like just overr£100) --do a search) or just buy a cheap YSS shock,
Can you get a 3VD--4TX spring off without cutting the collet at the top?
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Posted 18 September 2018 - 10:38 am
i put an r6 shock on my direct linkage '86 FZ and had to get the valves redone and the strongest spring that would fit.
worth the trouble for me though as more settings possible
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Posted 18 September 2018 - 10:59 am
[quote name="TKH" post="364761" timestamp="1537261851"]Blame Drewpy - AHA? The boy band?
goddit!......not my era , and I’m far too old to put tracks & band together
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goddit!......not my era , and I’m far too old to put tracks & band together
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Posted 18 September 2018 - 01:49 pm
[Can you get a 3VD--4TX spring off without cutting the collet at the top?
drewpy's Photodrewpy]
If I have to cut it out, so be it. The old 3vd shock is farked anyway, so got nothing to lose on that matter. The R1 one is made to be serviced, so no worries getting the standard spring out and on with the 3vd one. I think the standard r1 spring is about 400 lbs, and the tdm one about 1200...too much of a difference you reckon? Or is there enough tweaks possiblto be done to the R1 one to make it work you think?
drewpy's Photodrewpy]
If I have to cut it out, so be it. The old 3vd shock is farked anyway, so got nothing to lose on that matter. The R1 one is made to be serviced, so no worries getting the standard spring out and on with the 3vd one. I think the standard r1 spring is about 400 lbs, and the tdm one about 1200...too much of a difference you reckon? Or is there enough tweaks possiblto be done to the R1 one to make it work you think?
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Posted 18 September 2018 - 04:35 pm
[Can you get a 3VD--4TX spring off without cutting the collet at the top?
drewpy's Photodrewpy]
If I have to cut it out, so be it. The old 3vd shock is farked anyway, so got nothing to lose on that matter. The R1 one is made to be serviced, so no worries getting the standard spring out and on with the 3vd one. I think the standard r1 spring is about 400 lbs, and the tdm one about 1200...too much of a difference you reckon? Or is there enough tweaks possiblto be done to the R1 one to make it work you think?
a service and revalve cost £120 from Kais near me. new oil and nitrogen. they even put a new blader in there as the resevoir was being hit by the chain
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Posted 18 September 2018 - 06:30 pm
Hoping to avoid all interference from people with paid know-how. Learning by doing (and reading and YouTube)
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Posted 19 September 2018 - 07:32 am
Hoping to avoid all interference from people with paid know-how.
Can you expand on that a little bit..... paid know-how ? What does that mean ?
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Posted 19 September 2018 - 08:52 am
Can you expand on that a little bit..... paid know-how ? What does that mean ?
me tinks he don't wanna (dance with Eddie Grant no more) spend any money on it and is hoping the web and poo tube will give he the answers.
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